Thursday, October 8, 2015

Kris Vallotton - best practices for the prophetic

P. 67
16 All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness,
17 that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work. - 2 Timothy 3:16-17

P. 68 - distinguishing spirits
Spirits - not evil spirits. You are a spirit.

Jesus grew in favor with God and man. There's different favor to people from God. We are not all equal. Have you ever sat near someone or went to a store and you felt exhausted or even became angry? 

Story: Kris and bill did three deliverances: 1) Kris felt anger and left early 2) Kris laid hands on him and had pornographic thoughts and left early 3) laid hands on him, had suicidal thoughts and asked if he had them too in case his feelings were discerning the evil spirit. 

Lesson learned: if you touch someone or enter a new territory and you feel there problem (it's a spiritual problem).  If you don't feel anything it's just a problem of the flesh for that person. Some people are diagnosed bi-polar who are actually very gifted in discernment. If you walk into a store and you feel heaviness - the employees carry that heaviness. The owners authority influences the employees. 

If you are angry or have self-pity long enough you will attract demons. 
26 Be angry and do not sin; do not let the sun go down on your anger,
27 and give no opportunity to the devil. - Ephesians 4:26-27

"You are such a good teacher!" Shouted from audience.
Kris responds, "that's not a prophecy, it's a word of knowledge." :)

God writes history with prophetic purpose:
Children of Israel left Egypt and were baptized (Red Sea) on dry land and when the priests crossed the second river the priests had to wade through water to their chests. On their way to Promised land they had to pass through a city named Adam (leaving old man) and then a city named Sin, then another city named Gilgal where they were circumcised (hearts need to be circumcised). They were led by Joshua into promised land (Joshua is Hebrew name for Jesus which means Salvation). 

"Mind reading" is not only for occultic use. 
But he, knowing their thoughts, said to them, "Every kingdom divided against itself is laid waste, and a divided household falls. - Luke 11:17

Circumstances: 
Sometimes you don't know if you've run into a demon until you are going the same way.

P. 75

19 Do not quench the Spirit.
20 Do not despise prophecies,
21 but test everything; hold fast what is good. - 1 Thessalonians 5:19-21

Kris says there are people in his Facebook page weekly quoting this passage to call Kris a false prophet:
18 I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brothers. And I will put my words in his mouth, and he shall speak to them all that I command him.
19 And whoever will not listen to my words that he shall speak in my name, I myself will require it of him.
20 But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in my name that I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that same prophet shall die.' - Deuteronomy 18:18-20

Old Testament vs New Testament. 
Everyone before the cross had dead spirits. Everyone was absent of the Holy Spirit. A few people had the spirit visit them. People did not have the mind of Christ. Everyone who was adulterous or spoke falsely were stoned. Everyone was stoned under the Law pre-Jesus.

Jesus said "I will never leave you or forsake you." This is true only for those post cross.

29 Let two or three prophets speak, and let the others weigh what is said.
30 If a revelation is made to another sitting there, let the first be silent.
31 For you can all prophesy one by one, so that all may learn and all be encouraged,
32 and the spirits of prophets are subject to prophets. - 1 Corinthians 14:29-32

Prophesy is always about the future. How do you judge something that is to come true ten years from now? Judge the source. 

NT prophetic mistakes:
10 While we were staying for many days, a prophet named Agabus came down from Judea.
11 And coming to us, he took Paul's belt and bound his own feet and hands and said, "Thus says the Holy Spirit, 'This is how the Jews at Jerusalem will bind the man who owns this belt and deliver him into the hands of the Gentiles.'" - Acts 21:10-11

What really happened:
32 He at once took soldiers and centurions and ran down to them. And when they saw the tribune and the soldiers, they stopped beating Paul.
33 Then the tribune came up and arrested him and ordered him to be bound with two chains. He inquired who he was and what he had done. - Acts 21:32-33

Prophets didn't always get it right and it didn't label them "false prophet."

Develop a refuse (refuge) gate.
A body takes the nutrients releases the toxic or non-applicable "food."

If someone gives you or your friend a bad word ... Flush. Keep your toilet empty.

Keep order in Church
But all things should be done decently and in order. - 1 Corinthians 14:40

But don't create so many rules nothing is going on!

Where there are no oxen, the manger is clean, but abundant crops come by the strength of the ox.  - Proverbs 14:4

Story: Kathy asks Kris to go to Lamaze class. 6 week class where you watch bloody films with no plot. They teach mothers to look at a focal point as husbands remind them to breath. Kathy had a 28 hour labor. Kids come out sideways. Put a snickers bar up as a focal point. About three hours into it she got angry and started calling him names. He got so stressed out he ate the focal point. They went to delivery room and after passing out 6 times and with pale white face from seeing blood the doctor asked him if he wanted to cut the embelicol cord. Kris said, "what do we pay you for?!" All babies are not cute. His child had a blood blister on her head and her face was all squished together. He showed her to his mom and she said, "she looks just like you!" 

Lesson learned: when you birth something it's not clean, plastic wrapped and beautiful (at first). Be prepared for messy, bloody, ugly births.

Guidelines for judging prophetic words
1.   Word must be congruent with Scripture. Extra-biblical prophecies can't go against the core character of God or against the nature of the New Covenant. 
2.   It must bear witness with the spirit of the one who receives it. The Spirit himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God, - Romans 8:16
3.   The fruit of the fruit is that it brings the person closer to God.
"8 Indeed, I count everything as loss because of the surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord. For his sake I have suffered the loss of all things and count them as rubbish, in order that I may gain Christ 9 and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which comes through faith in Christ, the righteousness from God that depends on faith- 10 that I may know him and the power of his resurrection, and may share his sufferings, becoming like him in his death," - Philippians 3:8-10 
4.    The prophets and leadership should be in agreement about interpretation and application. 
Obey your leaders and submit to them, for they are keeping watch over your souls, as those who will have to give an account. Let them do this with joy and not with groaning, for that would be of no advantage to you. - Hebrews 13:17

Best advice you will get from me all year:
Build relationship with people around you before you need it. The scariest person is one with a huge gift but a very low relational ability (EQ = emotional intelligence). Think of a person that if you did something wrong you would feel anxiety telling them you failed (someone you look up to that you respect). Find someone who has time for you. Meet with them once a month. Who would you allow speak into your life where their opinion weighs more than your passion. Married couples find another couple you look up to and treat them to dinner once a month with the invitation for them to speak into your life.

P. 103 - warnings or judgments
When Agabus prophesied about a famine he tied sin to a judgment. If you attach a warning to a sin it is no longer a warning it is a judgment. If someone smokes and gets lung cancer it is not a judgment it is sowing and reaping. Jesus wants to get between our sowing and reaping. When I ask for forgiveness and repent I've broken the sowing and reaping by the power of Jesus. If you get a venarial disease (vd) you have recovered what you sowed. 

Stay away from warnings. When you are part of a leadership team that trusts you and you've prophesied good words, then step into warnings a little. 

Default: comfort, encourage, exhort 
 

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